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	<title>Comments on: Using UEFI DUET to boot Fedora 12</title>
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		<title>By: Morgan Herley</title>
		<link>http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/12/using-uefi-duet-to-boot-fedora-12.html/comment-page-1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Herley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decent reading. Like your site design as well. Keep up your good work.</description>
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		<title>By: fpmurphy</title>
		<link>http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/12/using-uefi-duet-to-boot-fedora-12.html/comment-page-1#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>fpmurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The limit of the 2tb booting is not the BIOS, it&#039;s the MBR table.

Correct.  I have removed the sentence that implied a BIOS limit.  Thank you for spotting the error.

&gt; There is no reason a normal BIOS machine with a GPT installed couldn&#039;t boot from a partition &gt;  2TB.

I agree. 

&gt; Since GPT requires the legacy MBR still be present

Huh?  Where did that requirement come from?   You can have a GPT without having an MBR present.  In fact you can embed a BIOS boot partition inside GPT if you want to. The T13 (ATA) GPT partition record design now includes a Legacy BIOS Bootable bit that can be set for a partition like a BIOS boot partition. The algorithm is  documented in T13 EDD-4 revision 2 and later.  But again there is no requirement for an MBR to be present.

&gt; Not only is booting from GPT without EFI possible, it&#039;s actually fairly easy.   

Correct.  Just look at GRUB2.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The limit of the 2tb booting is not the BIOS, it&#8217;s the MBR table.</p>
<p>Correct.  I have removed the sentence that implied a BIOS limit.  Thank you for spotting the error.</p>
<p>&gt; There is no reason a normal BIOS machine with a GPT installed couldn&#8217;t boot from a partition &gt;  2TB.</p>
<p>I agree. </p>
<p>&gt; Since GPT requires the legacy MBR still be present</p>
<p>Huh?  Where did that requirement come from?   You can have a GPT without having an MBR present.  In fact you can embed a BIOS boot partition inside GPT if you want to. The T13 (ATA) GPT partition record design now includes a Legacy BIOS Bootable bit that can be set for a partition like a BIOS boot partition. The algorithm is  documented in T13 EDD-4 revision 2 and later.  But again there is no requirement for an MBR to be present.</p>
<p>&gt; Not only is booting from GPT without EFI possible, it&#8217;s actually fairly easy.   </p>
<p>Correct.  Just look at GRUB2.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I would like to say, pretty good overall, but a good amount of miss information as well.  The limit of the 2tb booting is not the BIOS, it&#039;s the MBR table.  There is no reason a normal BIOS machine with a GPT installed couldn&#039;t boot from a partition &gt; 2TB.  Since GPT requires the legacy MBR still be present, there is no reason the code stored in the MBR couldn&#039;t boot from any location, in any partition (no matter the size) stored in the GPT.  It&#039;s just companies want you to believe that it&#039;s impossible and you must upgrade.  I have written my fair share of software (including my own MBR, multiple boot loaders, and small operating systems) and can confirm that you can access &gt; 2tb using bios functions, so the only limitation is purely implementation of the software.  Not only is booting from GPT without EFI possible, it&#039;s actually fairly easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I would like to say, pretty good overall, but a good amount of miss information as well.  The limit of the 2tb booting is not the BIOS, it&#8217;s the MBR table.  There is no reason a normal BIOS machine with a GPT installed couldn&#8217;t boot from a partition &gt; 2TB.  Since GPT requires the legacy MBR still be present, there is no reason the code stored in the MBR couldn&#8217;t boot from any location, in any partition (no matter the size) stored in the GPT.  It&#8217;s just companies want you to believe that it&#8217;s impossible and you must upgrade.  I have written my fair share of software (including my own MBR, multiple boot loaders, and small operating systems) and can confirm that you can access > 2tb using bios functions, so the only limitation is purely implementation of the software.  Not only is booting from GPT without EFI possible, it&#8217;s actually fairly easy.</p>
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